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Complete Guide: Migrating from AccessAlly to ThriveCart Learn
📊 Migration Complexity: HIGH (Complete Platform Change)
⏱️ Estimated Time: 30-50 hours (professional help recommended)
🛠️ Technical Level: Advanced – Requires careful planning and execution
💰 Cost Impact: Variable – evaluate ThriveCart pricing vs current WordPress + AccessAlly costs
Why This Migration Is Complex
Migrating from AccessAlly to ThriveCart Learn is NOT a simple data transfer. This is a complete platform migration involving:
- Platform Change: Moving from WordPress-based solution (AccessAlly) to all-in-one SaaS (ThriveCart Learn)
- Course Recreation: Manually rebuilding ALL courses and content in ThriveCart Learn
- Student Data Migration: Moving student enrollments and purchase records
- Progress Loss: Student course progress CANNOT transfer – starts fresh in ThriveCart
- Access Control Change: Different access model (ThriveCart product-based vs AccessAlly tag-based)
- CRM Impact: You may lose CRM functionality depending on current setup
- Content Hosting: WordPress site content must be relocated or maintained separately
- Payment Migration: Existing subscriptions need careful handling
This migration involves complete course recreation and student progress loss. Before committing, ensure ThriveCart Learn truly meets your needs. Budget 30-50 hours minimum for DIY or expect $2,500-$6,000 for professional migration services.
Why Migrate from AccessAlly to ThriveCart Learn?
Common reasons for migrating despite the complexity:
- All-in-One Simplicity: ThriveCart handles courses, payments, hosting, and backups automatically
- No WordPress Maintenance: Eliminate plugin updates, hosting management, security patches, and conflicts
- Already Using ThriveCart: If you use ThriveCart for payments, Learn is a natural extension
- Cart Integration: Seamless integration between ThriveCart checkout and course delivery
- Lower Technical Overhead: No more managing WordPress, AccessAlly, CRM, hosting, email services
- Mobile-Optimized: ThriveCart Learn is built mobile-first (better than many WordPress themes)
- Course Marketplace: Potential visibility in ThriveCart’s ecosystem
- Simplified Tech Stack: Replace WordPress + AccessAlly + CRM + hosting with single platform
What You’ll Lose (AccessAlly Features Not in ThriveCart Learn)
Be realistic about what you’re giving up:
- Advanced Access Rules: AccessAlly’s sophisticated tag-based access logic won’t transfer – ThriveCart uses simpler product-based access
- WordPress Flexibility: 60,000+ WordPress plugins replaced by ThriveCart’s built-in features only
- CRM Integration: AccessAlly’s deep CRM integration (ActiveCampaign, Ontraport, Keap, etc.) may be lost unless ThriveCart integrates
- Custom Design: WordPress theme/page builder flexibility vs ThriveCart’s template system
- Drip Content Complexity: AccessAlly’s advanced release logic vs ThriveCart’s simpler drip scheduling
- Automation Logic: Complex multi-tag automations may not translate to ThriveCart
- Student Progress Data: All course progress tracking starts fresh – historical data lost
- WordPress Site: If AccessAlly was integrated with blog/marketing pages, those stay in WordPress (separate platform)
- Quiz/Assessment Features: If using AccessAlly quiz features or plugins (LearnDash, etc.), may need to recreate differently
- Community Features: BuddyBoss, PeepSo, or other WordPress community plugins won’t transfer
What You’ll Need Before Starting
✅ Required Services & Accounts
- ThriveCart Account with Learn Add-On:
- ThriveCart Standard: $495 one-time (includes cart but NOT Learn)
- ThriveCart Learn: $195 one-time add-on (course platform)
- OR ThriveCart Pro: $690 one-time (includes Learn + advanced features)
- Note: ThriveCart is one-time payment, NOT subscription (major cost advantage)
- Existing AccessAlly Site Backup:
- Full WordPress backup (in case you need to rollback)
- Database export (member data, purchase records)
- Course content export or documentation
- Video Hosting:
- ThriveCart Learn supports: Vimeo, Wistia, YouTube, self-hosted
- If videos currently on Vimeo/Wistia, no migration needed
- If self-hosted in WordPress, re-upload to video platform
- Domain Setup:
- Custom domain for ThriveCart Learn (e.g., learn.yourdomain.com or courses.yourdomain.com)
- OR use ThriveCart subdomain (yourname.thrivecart.com)
- Recommendation: Use custom domain for branding and SEO
- Payment Gateway:
- Stripe and/or PayPal account
- ThriveCart integrates with both seamlessly
- If already using Stripe/PayPal with AccessAlly, same accounts work
📋 Technical Requirements
- Access to WordPress admin (to export data and content)
- Access to CRM (to export student data and tags)
- Spreadsheet skills (for student data transformation)
- Basic understanding of course structure and access rules
- Video editing skills (if you need to re-edit or reprocess videos)
ThriveCart Learn has no import mechanism for student course progress. All students will start with 0% completion when you migrate. This will frustrate students who were mid-course. Plan communication strategy carefully and consider offering extensions or bonuses to offset this inconvenience.
📋 Complete the Pre-Migration Checklist
Before proceeding, complete these critical tasks:
- Full WordPress site backup (files + database)
- Export all student data from CRM and WordPress
- Document current course structure (modules, lessons, access rules)
- Create inventory of all course videos (URLs, hosting, privacy settings)
- Export/document all course content (text, PDFs, attachments)
- List all active products and pricing structures
- Export active subscription list (for migration planning)
- Communicate migration plan to students (especially progress loss)
- Plan WordPress site strategy (keep for blog? Shut down? Redirect?)
Phase 1: Planning & ThriveCart Setup (6-10 hours)
Step 1: Purchase ThriveCart Learn
- If you don’t have ThriveCart already, purchase ThriveCart Standard + Learn add-on ($495 + $195 = $690 one-time)
- OR purchase ThriveCart Pro ($690 one-time – includes Learn)
- Create ThriveCart account and verify access to Learn section
- Configure basic ThriveCart settings (business name, logo, colors)
Step 2: Set Up Custom Domain (Optional but Recommended)
- Choose subdomain for courses: learn.yourdomain.com or courses.yourdomain.com
- In ThriveCart, go to Settings → Domain Setup
- Add custom domain for ThriveCart Learn
- Create CNAME record in DNS:
- Host: learn (or courses)
- Points to: domains.thrivecart.com
- TTL: 3600 (1 hour)
- Wait for DNS propagation: Usually 1-6 hours
- Verify SSL certificate: ThriveCart provides free SSL automatically
Step 3: Connect Payment Gateway
- Go to ThriveCart → Settings → Payment Gateways
- Connect Stripe:
- Click “Connect Stripe”
- Authorize ThriveCart access to your Stripe account
- Verify connection successful
- Connect PayPal (optional):
- Enter PayPal email or use PayPal Commerce Platform
- Test connection
- Configure tax settings if applicable (ThriveCart supports Stripe Tax)
Step 4: Export Student Data from AccessAlly
You need to export student enrollment data from both WordPress and your CRM.
WordPress Export:
- Export WordPress users:
- Install “Export Users to CSV” plugin (or use database query)
- Export: Email, First Name, Last Name, User Registration Date
- Save as “wordpress-users.csv”
- Export user meta (Subscriber IDs):
- You’ll need the CRM Subscriber ID stored in user meta
- Query:
SELECT user_id, meta_value FROM wp_usermeta WHERE meta_key = 'accessally_subscriber_id' - Save as “wordpress-subscriber-ids.csv”
CRM Export (ActiveCampaign / Ontraport / Keap / etc.):
- Export all contacts:
- Include: Email, First Name, Last Name, All Tags
- Save as “crm-contacts.csv”
- Document tag-to-product mapping:
- Create spreadsheet listing: Tag Name → Course/Product → ThriveCart Product (to be created)
- Example: “Product: Course A” tag → Course A → ThriveCart Product ID (TBD)
Purchase History Export:
- If using Stripe with AccessAlly, export Stripe customer list with product purchases
- If using PayPal, export transaction history
- Map purchases to students for verification
Step 5: Map AccessAlly Courses to ThriveCart Learn Structure
AccessAlly’s module/post structure needs to map to ThriveCart Learn’s course structure.
| AccessAlly Structure | ThriveCart Learn Equivalent |
|---|---|
| AccessAlly Module | ThriveCart Course |
| Module Sections (optional grouping) | Course Sections (modules in ThriveCart) |
| WordPress Posts (lessons) | Course Lessons |
| Tag-based access rules | Product-based enrollment (purchase = access) |
| Release schedules (tag date + days) | Drip schedule (enrollment date + days) |
| Prerequisite posts | Prerequisite lessons (complete before unlock) |
| Completion tracking via tags | Built-in progress tracking (automatic) |
Create a mapping spreadsheet:
- Column A: AccessAlly Module Name
- Column B: Number of Lessons
- Column C: Access Tags Required
- Column D: ThriveCart Product to Create
- Column E: ThriveCart Course Name
- Column F: Migration Notes (drip schedules, prerequisites, special access)
Step 6: Plan WordPress Site Strategy
ThriveCart Learn only handles courses. Decide what happens to your WordPress site:
Option 1: Keep WordPress for Marketing (Recommended)
- WordPress site continues hosting blog, sales pages, about page, etc.
- ThriveCart Learn handles all course content and student area
- Link from WordPress sales pages to ThriveCart checkout
- After purchase, ThriveCart delivers course access
- Pros: Keep blog for SEO, maintain marketing site, best of both worlds
- Cons: Maintain both platforms (but WordPress much simpler without AccessAlly)
Option 2: Shut Down WordPress Completely
- Export all blog content you want to keep
- Create simple HTML landing pages for sales (or use ThriveCart landing pages)
- Redirect old WordPress domain to ThriveCart Learn or landing pages
- Cancel WordPress hosting
- Pros: Simplest tech stack, lowest cost
- Cons: Lose SEO value from blog, lose WordPress flexibility
Option 3: Hybrid – WordPress Blog + ThriveCart Courses
- Remove AccessAlly and course content from WordPress
- Keep WordPress as lean blog platform (no membership plugins)
- All courses in ThriveCart Learn
- Significant cost savings (simpler WordPress hosting, no AccessAlly license)
- Pros: SEO-friendly blog + simple course platform
- Cons: Two platforms to maintain
Phase 2: Course Content Migration (15-25 hours)
Step 7: Create Products in ThriveCart
Before creating courses in Learn, create products in ThriveCart that grant access to those courses.
- Go to ThriveCart → Products → Add Product
- For each AccessAlly course, create a ThriveCart product:
- Product name: Match your AccessAlly product name
- Price: One-time, subscription, or payment plan
- Description: Sales copy for checkout page
- Thank you page: Redirect to course welcome page (in Learn)
- Configure subscription settings (if applicable):
- Billing frequency (monthly, yearly)
- Trial period (if applicable)
- Subscription duration (ongoing or fixed term)
- Link product to ThriveCart Learn course (you’ll create courses in next step):
- In product settings → Learn → “Grant access to course”
- Select the course this product unlocks
- Test checkout flow in test mode before going live
Step 8: Create Courses in ThriveCart Learn
Now rebuild your AccessAlly courses in ThriveCart Learn.
- Go to ThriveCart Learn → Courses → Create Course
- For each AccessAlly Module, create a ThriveCart Learn course:
- Course name: Match your AccessAlly module name
- Course description: What students will learn
- Course image: Upload course thumbnail
- Course visibility: Private (only enrolled students)
- Create course sections (modules/chapters):
- ThriveCart calls these “Sections” (like module groupings)
- Example: “Section 1: Introduction”, “Section 2: Advanced Techniques”
- Create lessons within each section:
- Copy content from AccessAlly WordPress posts
- Paste into ThriveCart Learn lesson editor
- Reformat using ThriveCart’s editor (similar to WordPress Gutenberg)
- Add videos to lessons:
- If videos on Vimeo/Wistia: Paste video URL (ThriveCart embeds automatically)
- If videos self-hosted: Re-upload to Vimeo/Wistia, then embed
- Configure video settings (autoplay, controls, privacy)
- Add downloadable resources:
- Upload PDFs, worksheets, templates
- ThriveCart stores files securely
- Configure lesson completion:
- Manual (student clicks “Mark Complete”)
- OR Automatic (lesson considered complete when viewed)
Step 9: Configure Drip Schedules
If you use AccessAlly’s release schedules, recreate them in ThriveCart Learn.
- In course settings → Drip Schedule
- Choose drip type:
- Immediately available: All lessons unlock at once (like AccessAlly with no release schedule)
- Drip by interval: Unlock lessons X days after enrollment (like AccessAlly’s “X days after tag applied”)
- Drip by date: Unlock lessons on specific calendar dates (like AccessAlly’s fixed date releases)
- Drip by completion: Unlock next lesson when previous is complete (like AccessAlly’s prerequisite logic)
- Set lesson unlock schedule:
- Lesson 1: Immediately (day 0)
- Lesson 2: Day 7
- Lesson 3: Day 14
- Etc.
- Preview drip schedule to verify correct timing
Step 10: Set Up Course Navigation and Branding
- Configure course homepage:
- Welcome message
- Course outline/curriculum
- Getting started instructions
- Customize course player:
- Brand colors (match your business colors)
- Logo
- Navigation style (sidebar, top nav, etc.)
- Progress bar display
- Configure student dashboard:
- What students see when they log in
- List of enrolled courses
- Progress tracking
- Account settings access
- Set up completion certificates (if applicable):
- ThriveCart Learn can auto-generate certificates on course completion
- Customize certificate design and text
Step 11: Test Course Experience End-to-End
- Enroll yourself as test student (use test email or manually enroll)
- Navigate through course:
- Test lesson flow and navigation
- Verify videos play correctly
- Test downloadable resources
- Test lesson completion marking
- Verify drip schedule (if applicable)
- Test on mobile:
- ThriveCart Learn is mobile-optimized
- Verify videos work on mobile
- Test navigation usability
- Fix any issues before importing students
Phase 3: Student Data Migration (6-10 hours)
Step 12: Prepare Student Import CSV
Transform your AccessAlly student data into ThriveCart Learn import format.
ThriveCart Learn import format (CSV columns):
email– Email address (required)first_name– First namelast_name– Last nameproduct_id– ThriveCart Product ID (to grant course access)enrolled_date– Date student originally purchased (optional but recommended)
CSV preparation steps:
- Combine data sources:
- Merge WordPress users CSV + CRM contacts CSV (match on email)
- Include purchase/enrollment dates if available
- Map tags to ThriveCart Product IDs:
- For each student, look at their CRM tags (from export)
- If student has “Product: Course A” tag → Add ThriveCart Product ID for Course A
- If student has multiple products → Create multiple CSV rows (one per product)
- Handle multiple course enrollments:
- If student owns Course A + Course B + Course C
- Create 3 CSV rows (same email, different product_id)
- OR use ThriveCart’s bulk enrollment (enroll same student in multiple products)
- Clean data:
- Remove invalid emails
- Remove refunded customers (unless you want to grandfather them)
- Remove test accounts
- Save as “thrivecart-import.csv”
Example CSV:
email,first_name,last_name,product_id,enrolled_date [email protected],John,Doe,12345,2024-01-15 [email protected],John,Doe,12346,2024-03-20 [email protected],Jane,Smith,12345,2024-02-10
Step 13: Import Students to ThriveCart Learn
Important: ThriveCart does not have a bulk CSV import feature for course enrollments. You have two options:
Option 1: Use ThriveCart API (Recommended for Large Lists)
- ThriveCart has an API for enrolling students programmatically
- Write a script (Python, PHP, or use Zapier/Make) to:
- Read your CSV file
- For each student, call ThriveCart API to enroll them
- API endpoint:
POST /api/external/enroll
- This requires technical knowledge or hiring a developer
- Expected time: 3-6 hours to write and test script
Option 2: Manual Enrollment via ThriveCart Dashboard (Small Lists Only)
- Go to ThriveCart → Products → [Product Name] → Enrollments
- Click “Add Manual Enrollment”
- Enter student email, name, and enrollment date
- Repeat for each student (tedious for > 50 students)
- Expected time: 1-2 minutes per student
Option 3: Use Zapier/Make for Automated Import
- Create Google Sheet with student data
- Set up Zapier/Make automation:
- Trigger: New row in Google Sheet
- Action: Enroll student in ThriveCart product (via API)
- Manually add rows to Google Sheet (or import CSV to Google Sheets)
- Zapier processes each row and enrolls student
- Expected time: 2-3 hours setup + processing time
Step 14: Verify Student Enrollments
- Spot-check 10-20 students:
- Search student in ThriveCart → Customers
- Verify student has correct product(s) enrolled
- Verify enrollment date matches (if imported)
- Test student login:
- Have test student (or yourself) log in to ThriveCart Learn
- Verify they see enrolled courses
- Verify they can access course content
- Verify they CANNOT access courses they didn’t purchase
- Check for duplicate accounts:
- Same email enrolled multiple times (ThriveCart should prevent this, but verify)
- Merge duplicates if found
Step 15: Handle Active Subscriptions
If you have recurring subscriptions in AccessAlly (Stripe/PayPal), you need to migrate them carefully.
Strategy 1: Keep Existing Subscriptions in Stripe/PayPal (Easiest)
- Existing subscriptions continue billing in Stripe/PayPal as before
- Set up webhook in Stripe/PayPal to notify ThriveCart of renewals
- When subscription renews → ThriveCart extends access
- When subscription cancels → ThriveCart removes access
- New subscriptions use ThriveCart products (future purchases)
- Pros: No disruption to existing subscribers, no churn risk
- Cons: Manage subscriptions in two places temporarily
Strategy 2: Request Subscriber Re-Enrollment (Higher Risk)
- Email active subscribers announcing platform change
- Offer incentive: “Cancel old subscription, get 2 free months on new platform”
- Provide instructions:
- Cancel AccessAlly subscription in Stripe/PayPal
- Use special link to re-subscribe via ThriveCart (with discount)
- Risk: 20-30% may not complete re-subscription (churn)
- Pros: Clean break from old system
- Cons: Revenue loss from churn
Strategy 3: Transfer Subscriptions to ThriveCart (Most Complex)
- Export active subscriptions from Stripe/PayPal
- Cancel old subscriptions (risky – coordinate timing carefully)
- Create matching subscriptions in ThriveCart
- Notify students of platform change
- Requires careful coordination to avoid double-billing or access gaps
- Not recommended unless you have small number of subscriptions (< 20)
Phase 4: Communication & Go-Live (4-6 hours)
Step 16: Communicate Migration to Students
Students will be confused if course platform changes without warning. Plan communication carefully.
Email #1: Pre-Migration Announcement (1-2 weeks before)
- Subject: “Important: Platform Upgrade Coming [Date]”
- Explain WHY you’re migrating (better experience, easier access, mobile-friendly, etc.)
- Set expectations: “Course progress will reset, but all content will be available”
- Provide timeline: “Migration happens [date], expect email with new login on [date]”
- Offer support: “Questions? Reply to this email”
Email #2: Migration Complete Notification (Day of Go-Live)
- Subject: “Your New Course Platform is Ready – Login Here”
- Provide ThriveCart Learn URL (e.g., courses.yourdomain.com)
- Instructions: “Click ‘Login’ → Use same email → Click ‘Forgot Password’ to set new password”
- Explain: “Your courses are ready, but progress tracking starts fresh”
- Offer bonus/incentive for inconvenience (optional but recommended)
- Provide support contact
Email #3: Follow-Up Support (3-5 days after)
- Subject: “Need Help Accessing Your Courses?”
- Address common issues (login problems, password reset, finding courses)
- Reiterate support availability
- Ask for feedback on new platform
Step 17: Update WordPress Site (If Keeping It)
If you’re keeping WordPress for blog/marketing but moving courses to ThriveCart:
- Remove AccessAlly plugin (after confirming all students migrated)
- Delete course content from WordPress:
- Delete AccessAlly modules (or unpublish)
- Delete course lesson posts
- Keep sales pages (update to link to ThriveCart checkout)
- Update sales pages:
- Replace AccessAlly order forms with ThriveCart checkout links
- Update copy if needed (“Access courses on our new platform”)
- Add redirects for old course URLs:
- Redirect old /course/lesson-name URLs to ThriveCart Learn login page
- Use Redirection plugin or .htaccess
- Prevents 404 errors for bookmarked lesson links
- Update navigation menus:
- Remove “My Courses” or “Member Dashboard” links
- Add “Login to Courses” link (points to ThriveCart Learn)
- Simplify WordPress:
- Remove unnecessary membership plugins
- Consider downgrading hosting (less resource-intensive without courses)
- Cancel AccessAlly license
Step 18: Go Live with ThriveCart Learn
- Final testing:
- Test checkout flow for new purchases
- Verify payment processing
- Verify course access granted on purchase
- Test student login and course access
- Switch products to live mode (if in test mode)
- Send Email #2 (migration complete notification) to all students
- Monitor support emails/tickets for first 24-48 hours
- Be available to help students with login issues, password resets, etc.
Step 19: Post-Migration Verification
First 24 Hours:
- Monitor student login attempts (ThriveCart analytics)
- Respond to support requests within 2 hours
- Track common issues (login problems, password resets, course access)
- Fix critical issues immediately
First Week:
- Verify new purchases process correctly
- Check payment gateway transactions (Stripe/PayPal)
- Monitor course engagement (are students using the platform?)
- Send Email #3 (follow-up support offer)
- Address any reported bugs or issues
First Month:
- Analyze student engagement vs. old platform
- Gather feedback on new platform (survey or direct outreach)
- Make improvements based on feedback
- If keeping WordPress, verify redirects working correctly
- If shutting down WordPress, plan final shutdown date
Troubleshooting Common Issues
Issue 1: Students Can’t Find Login Page
Symptoms: Students report “I can’t find where to log in”
Solution:
- ThriveCart Learn login URL: [your-subdomain].thrivecart.com/login OR custom domain/login
- Add prominent “Login to Courses” link on your WordPress site header
- Include login URL in all emails to students
- Create simple redirect: yourdomain.com/login → ThriveCart Learn login
Issue 2: Student Says “I Don’t Have Access to My Course”
Symptoms: Student can log in but doesn’t see enrolled courses
Causes:
- Student not enrolled in ThriveCart product
- Student using different email than enrolled with
- Enrollment didn’t process during import
Solution:
- Search student in ThriveCart → Customers
- Verify email matches their login email
- Check “Products” section – do they have the course product?
- If not enrolled: Manually enroll them (Products → Add Enrollment)
- If enrolled but still no access: Check product is correctly linked to course
Issue 3: Videos Not Playing
Symptoms: Student reports black screen or error when trying to watch videos
Causes:
- Video privacy settings on Vimeo/Wistia blocking embed
- Video URL incorrect or broken
- Video deleted from hosting platform
- Student’s browser/ad blocker interfering
Solution:
- Test video yourself in ThriveCart Learn
- If video works for you but not student: Ask them to try different browser or disable ad blocker
- If video broken for everyone:
- Check video exists in Vimeo/Wistia account
- Verify video privacy settings allow embedding
- Re-embed video URL in ThriveCart lesson
Issue 4: Student Progress Not Saving
Symptoms: Student marks lesson complete but progress doesn’t save
Causes:
- Browser cookies disabled
- Student using private/incognito mode
- ThriveCart platform issue (rare)
Solution:
- Ask student to ensure cookies enabled in browser
- Ask student to log in normally (not incognito/private mode)
- Test yourself – can you complete lessons and see progress?
- If widespread issue, contact ThriveCart support
Issue 5: New Purchase Didn’t Grant Course Access
Symptoms: Student purchased but doesn’t have course access
Causes:
- Product not linked to course in ThriveCart settings
- Payment failed but student thinks it succeeded
- ThriveCart webhook delay (usually < 1 minute)
Solution:
- Check payment processed in Stripe/PayPal
- Check ThriveCart → Orders – does order exist?
- Check product settings → Learn → Is course linked?
- If payment succeeded but no access: Manually enroll student
- Fix product → course link for future purchases
Issue 6: Student Lost All Course Progress
Symptoms: Student complains they were 50% through course, now showing 0%
Cause: This is expected – progress cannot transfer from AccessAlly to ThriveCart
Solution:
- Acknowledge their frustration (this is valid complaint)
- Explain: “Our old platform and new platform track progress differently – we couldn’t transfer it”
- Offer goodwill gesture:
- Extend subscription 1 month free
- Provide bonus resource/template
- Personal check-in to help them get back on track
- If student was near completion: Manually mark course complete or issue certificate
Migration Timeline & Effort
Total Time Estimate: 30-50 hours (professional help: 1-2 weeks)
| Phase | Time (DIY) | Time (Professional) |
|---|---|---|
| Planning & ThriveCart Setup | 6-10 hours | 3-5 hours |
| Data Export & Mapping | 4-6 hours | 2-3 hours |
| Course Content Recreation | 15-25 hours | 10-15 hours |
| Student Data Import | 3-6 hours | 2-3 hours |
| Communication & Go-Live | 2-3 hours | 1-2 hours |
| Post-Migration Support | Variable | Included in package |
Time varies based on:
- Number of courses (each course adds 2-4 hours)
- Number of students (> 100 students requires API scripting)
- Video hosting situation (re-uploading videos is time-intensive)
- Complexity of drip schedules and prerequisites
- WordPress site strategy (keeping vs. shutting down)
AccessAlly vs ThriveCart Learn: What You’re Giving Up and Gaining
What You Lose (AccessAlly Advantages)
- Advanced Access Control: AccessAlly’s tag-based access logic is more powerful than ThriveCart’s product-based system
- WordPress Flexibility: 60,000+ plugins for any feature vs ThriveCart’s built-in features only
- CRM Deep Integration: AccessAlly’s tight integration with ActiveCampaign, Ontraport, Keap, etc.
- Custom Design Freedom: WordPress themes and page builders vs ThriveCart templates
- Complex Release Logic: AccessAlly’s advanced prerequisite and release schedule options
- Student Progress Data: All historical progress tracking is lost in migration
- Integrated Blog/Marketing Site: WordPress courses + blog on same platform
- Community/Forum Features: If using BuddyBoss, PeepSo, etc. with AccessAlly
- Advanced Quiz/Assessment Tools: LearnDash Quiz, Gravity Forms quizzes, etc.
- Complete Control: You own WordPress site vs renting from ThriveCart
What You Gain (ThriveCart Learn Advantages)
- Zero Maintenance: No WordPress updates, plugin conflicts, or hosting management
- All-in-One Simplicity: Cart + courses in single platform vs WordPress + AccessAlly + CRM
- One-Time Pricing: ThriveCart is one-time payment ($690) vs AccessAlly subscription ($83-$166/month)
- Better Mobile Experience: ThriveCart Learn is mobile-first vs WordPress theme quality varies
- Seamless Cart Integration: Purchase on ThriveCart → instant course access (same platform)
- Built-in Analytics: Course engagement tracking without additional plugins
- Automatic Backups: ThriveCart handles all backups and security
- No Hosting Costs: ThriveCart includes hosting vs paying for WordPress hosting ($30-$100/month)
- Faster Setup: ThriveCart Learn is simpler to set up than WordPress + AccessAlly
- Lower Total Cost: ThriveCart one-time vs ongoing WordPress + AccessAlly + hosting + CRM costs
Should You Migrate? Decision Framework
Stay with AccessAlly if:
- You need advanced tag-based access control (multiple products, complex rules)
- You rely heavily on CRM automation (ActiveCampaign, Ontraport sequences)
- You value WordPress flexibility and plugin ecosystem
- Your courses are integrated with WordPress blog/content site
- You need custom features that ThriveCart doesn’t offer
- You want complete platform ownership and control
- Your students are mid-course and progress loss would cause major disruption
Migrate to ThriveCart Learn if:
- You’re tired of WordPress maintenance (updates, plugins, hosting)
- You already use ThriveCart for payments (natural integration)
- You want all-in-one simplicity over flexibility
- Your access rules are simple (one product = one course)
- You value mobile-optimized student experience
- You want to reduce ongoing costs (one-time payment vs subscriptions)
- You’re willing to accept student progress loss
- You don’t need advanced CRM automation
Alternative: Keep Both Temporarily
- Migrate NEW courses to ThriveCart Learn
- Keep existing courses in AccessAlly (don’t disrupt current students)
- Gradually phase out AccessAlly as courses finish or students complete
- Pros: No student disruption, test ThriveCart before full commitment
- Cons: Maintain both platforms (higher cost/complexity temporarily)
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: Can I import student course progress from AccessAlly to ThriveCart?
A: No. ThriveCart Learn has no mechanism to import course progress data. All students start with 0% completion when migrated. This is the biggest downside of this migration. Communicate this clearly to students and consider offering incentives (extended access, bonuses) to offset frustration.
Q: What happens to my WordPress site after migration?
A: You have three options:
- Keep WordPress for blog/marketing: Remove AccessAlly, keep WordPress as content site, link to ThriveCart for courses
- Shut down WordPress completely: Export any content you need, cancel hosting, redirect domain to ThriveCart
- Simplify WordPress: Remove membership features, downgrade hosting, use as simple blog
Most businesses choose Option 1 (keep WordPress blog, courses in ThriveCart).
Q: Can I use my existing Stripe/PayPal account with ThriveCart?
A: Yes. ThriveCart connects to your existing Stripe and/or PayPal accounts. However, existing subscriptions in Stripe/PayPal won’t automatically transfer to ThriveCart management. See Step 15 for subscription migration strategies.
Q: Does ThriveCart Learn support drip content?
A: Yes. ThriveCart Learn supports drip scheduling based on enrollment date (unlock lessons X days after enrollment) or specific calendar dates. It also supports prerequisite-based unlocking (complete Lesson 1 to unlock Lesson 2). However, it’s simpler than AccessAlly’s advanced release logic.
Q: Can I customize the design of ThriveCart Learn courses?
A: Somewhat. ThriveCart Learn allows customization of colors, fonts, logos, and layout options. However, it’s template-based and not as flexible as WordPress themes or page builders. You can’t add custom CSS/HTML like in WordPress.
Q: What happens to my CRM data (ActiveCampaign, Ontraport, etc.)?
A: Your CRM contacts remain in your CRM. However, ThriveCart Learn doesn’t integrate as deeply with external CRMs as AccessAlly does. ThriveCart can send purchase data to your CRM via Zapier/webhooks, but tag-based access control is gone (ThriveCart uses product-based access instead).
Q: Can I offer payment plans in ThriveCart?
A: Yes. ThriveCart supports one-time payments, subscriptions, and payment plans (e.g., 3 monthly payments of $100). This is one of ThriveCart’s strengths – very flexible payment options.
Q: Does ThriveCart Learn have a mobile app?
A: No native mobile app, but ThriveCart Learn is mobile-responsive and works well in mobile browsers. Students can add the site to their home screen as a web app. If you need a native app, consider staying with AccessAlly + WordPress and using a plugin like LifterLMS or AppPresser.
Q: Can I migrate just one course first to test?
A: Yes. You can set up ThriveCart Learn with one course, enroll a subset of students, and test the experience before committing to full migration. Use a subdomain (e.g., newcourses.yourdomain.com) for testing. This is a good strategy for large course libraries.
Q: What about affiliate programs – does ThriveCart support them?
A: Yes. ThriveCart has built-in affiliate management. You can set up affiliate commission rates, provide affiliate links, and track sales. ThriveCart’s affiliate system is actually more robust than most WordPress affiliate plugins.
Q: Can I export my data from ThriveCart if I want to leave later?
A: ThriveCart allows you to export customer data, order data, and student enrollment data. However, course content export is limited – you’d need to manually copy course text/videos if migrating away. This is a downside of SaaS platforms vs WordPress (full ownership).
Need Help?
Professional Migration Services:
- ThriveCart-Certified Developers: Hire developer experienced with ThriveCart Learn migrations
- Expected cost: $2,500-$6,000 depending on number of courses and students
- Timeline: 1-2 weeks for professional migration
- What’s included: Course setup, student import (via API), testing, go-live support
DIY Migration Support:
- ThriveCart Support: ThriveCart provides email support for Learn setup
- ThriveCart Community: Facebook group for ThriveCart users (helpful for migration questions)
- ThriveCart Documentation: Step-by-step guides for setting up Learn courses
Related Resources:
- ThriveCart Learn Getting Started Guide
- Creating Your First Course in ThriveCart Learn
- ThriveCart Learn Drip Scheduling
- ThriveCart Learn API Documentation
AccessAlly to ThriveCart Learn migration involves complete course recreation and student progress loss. Ensure this trade-off is worth the benefits (simpler platform, lower maintenance, one-time pricing). For many businesses, keeping WordPress for marketing + ThriveCart for courses is the best hybrid approach.
- ✅ ThriveCart Learn account purchased and configured
- ✅ Custom domain set up and SSL verified
- ✅ Payment gateway connected and tested
- ✅ Student data exported from AccessAlly and CRM
- ✅ All courses recreated in ThriveCart Learn
- ✅ Videos embedded and tested
- ✅ Drip schedules configured
- ✅ Students imported and enrollments verified
- ✅ Subscription migration strategy implemented
- ✅ Pre-migration communication sent to students
- ✅ WordPress site updated (if keeping) or redirects configured
- ✅ Go-live email sent with login instructions
- ✅ Post-migration support plan in place
- ✅ Student feedback collected and issues resolved